Showing posts with label BMW F800GS. Show all posts
Showing posts with label BMW F800GS. Show all posts

Wednesday, April 30, 2014

An Honest review of the BMW F800GS

I've wanted to write an entry with a 30M kms review here in the blog, but a video review would be more exciting. Especially if I can make it interesting!

 

After getting inspired by a video on YouTube, where an Aussie did An honest review of the Triumph Scrambler, I thought Why not do the same for my motorcycle? It would fulfill the enjoying experience for sure!

 

So here goes "An honest review of the BMW F800GS". If you enjoy, press like on YouTube! Helps other find and enjoy it! ( and makes me proud! )

 

 

Saturday, November 2, 2013

BMW F800GS: Anakee 3 mounted

Anakee 3 Title
Today mounted the Anakee 3 on the bike. Live they look more rugged than in pictures, seems more off-road than I would expect….
Review to follow - first impression is the big is much quicker curving, and more tipsy simply because the old wheels were worn into a square shape vs round….!

Rear Wheel
Anakee 3 mounted
Front Wheel:
Anakee 3 mounted

Wednesday, October 30, 2013

BMW F800GS: Which new tires to choose?

As per the previous post: Michelin Anakee 2 review, my faithful Anakee's have reached the end of their life. In general I was happy with their performance so the first question is "Why change?".

However they were mounted in March 2011, I think that maybe wheel technology has evolved since then especially for the growing segment of heavy travel enduros. Also with much more players here vs. when I bought my F800GS (i.e. the new Triumph Tiger, remodelled KTM adventure 990, new Yamaha Tenere, Ducati Multiestrada) there should be some investment from tire manufacturers for the segment.

When choosing a tire, I first filter by major brand names  (Michelin, Bridgestone, Dunlop, Metzeler, etc..), the reason being that the tires are the only point of contact in between the machine and the ground. You can have all the electronics in the world - ABS / traction control / stability programs, but if you buy a Chinese tire with less traction you will lengthen your braking distance, curving ability, etc...

Within the main brands there are various types of tire - some more for off-road use, some mixed usage and some for on-road. Here there's s difference in between the rational choice and the "What I would like to do" choice. Meaning that in my mind I would be doing enduro all day long up and down the Swiss mountains - i can see myself with a GoPro strapped to the bike in the middle of the forest with amazing Slow motion shots of drifts, dirt flying everywhere... The reality is, this never happens! I mean never! 2 years with the Anakee 2 and I probably went 8 times off-road and 900 times on-road and even then sloooowwwly. Don't want to crap up my daily commuting bike! But in spirit, I want the tire that goes everywhere just in case...

For the BMW F800GS the measurements are:

     Front 90/90 21 V
     Rear 150/70 17 V


The tires I found available in the market with respectable brand and F800GS size are


Recommended by BMW with Road Bias:
     - Michelin Anakee 2 (mounted by BMW out of factory)

BMW F800GS Tire choices


     - Bridgestone Battlewing 501 (used to be mounted by BMW out of factory)

BMW F800GS Tire choices


Recommended by BMW with Off-Road Bias:
     - Metzler Karoo

BMW F800GS Tire choices


     - Continental Twinduro TKC80

TKC80



Not recommended by BMW with Road Bias:
     - Continental Trail Attack

BMW F800GS Tire choices


     - Pirelli Scorpion MT90

BMW F800GS Tire choices


     - Metzeler Tourance

BMW F800GS Tire choices


     - Michelin Anakee 3 (probably too new to be recommended by BMW)

BMW F800GS Tire choices




Some of these are tubeless tires, but to use with BMW F800GS stock rims you need a tube.

So emotionally why not get the pure enduro tires for a what if situation?  But good for me the rational part kicked in... I need road grip!

I already had tried the Battlewings and not liked them and I have a bad impression of Pirelli tires in general, which left me with the Anakee 2, Metzeler Tourance or Anakee 3.

I chose the Anakee 3 simply because (i) it is the most Road tire of the 3, i didn't use the 20% off-road of the Anakee 2 (ii) it's cheaper than the Metzeler (iii) it has a radically different design! Why not try something new?

More to come....

Monday, October 21, 2013

Michelin Anakee 2 Review: 20000 kms after

I mounted the Michelin Anakee 2's when the bike had 15000 kms, and they've now lasted approx 20000 kms, not bad for a pair of tires!

Normally I read tire reviews of either (i) stores / blogs that dedicate themselves to trying the tires on a bike and then passing to the next review and (ii) people that just bought them, write on first impressions and say "will update" but never do :)

So here is the "end of lifetime" review of the BMW Anakee 2 front & rear tire mounted on a BMW F800GS.

What size are they?
They are the size recommended by BMW to fit the OEM rims.
Front:     90/90 21 V
Rear:     150/70 17 V

What does Michelin say about them?
"There's no longer any need to choose between grip and durability :
The grip in all conditions (wet, dry, cold) while keeping excellent durability
A sculpture that invites out of beaten tracks"

Agree with the first two statements, not exactly with the 3rd... the translation "invites out of beaten tracks" is true.. keep off beaten tracks :-)

How many tires have you tried on this bike?
I've tried the factory mounted Bridgestone Battlewings (lasted 15000 kms) these Michelin Anakee 2 (lasted 20000 kms) and on a rented F800GS the off road oriented Metzeler MCE Karoo.

How do they perform On-road?
Very well! This is what this tire was made for, although they do call it a adventure tire it shines only on tarmac. I definitely prefer the Anakee over the Battlewings in terms of grip and general feeling, for example the BWs had terrible grip in corners given me more than one scare and no confidence to lean into a corner.
In wet more of the same - I've done lately highway speeds with extreme rain and not once have they scared me.
The Anakee 2 is a sure tire allowing you to know what the bike will do. It allows very good braking before the ABS kicks in. Rolling noise is reduced vs. the BWs even at high highway speeds. Up to approx 170km/h (legally on a German Autobahn) no wobbling whatsoever, only around 185 do you feel a slight high-speed wobble, easily eliminated by leaning into the bike.

Verdict: Highly recommendable for on-road city usage or highway usage on wet or dry.

And Off-road?
Although Michelin states that the sculpture invite onto beaten tracks it struggles here, especially when compared to a proper off-road tire like the Metzeler MCE Karoo. See below for more.... I would separate into four different usages I've done:
- Dirt roads: Here the performance of the Anakee is acceptable. It won't have you blasting full throttle over a prolonged period (at least if you are an amateur) but it "works". I've done a full Portugal les a les (on these tires with acceptable performance.
- Gravel: Not good. The tire is very fidgety making it a nerve wrecking drive. MCE Karoo win big here.
- Mud: Appalling. The tire simply gets covered in mud and has no role in propelling you forward, or sideways. Your feet get to do the pushing instead of the motorcycle.
- Grass: Not good, but better than mud!

Verdict: definitely not an off road tire , but can do the occasional dry dirt track.

How have they worn out? 
I keep running the tires until their last breath as shown by reaching the 3mm bump Michelin incorporated in the center to warn us that it is time to change. Given that for the past year and a half I've mainly done city commuting with extreme stop & go (a red light every 100m) which is what normally kills tires they have resisted very well.
However there is a downside to the tires / while new they have much better grip than when worn out - you can notice the difference coming out of curves with gas.


Front tire
What I've noticed, but this is more due to my riding style on the F800GS, the front & rear tires wear almost evenly in between them. My Transalp used to go through 2 rear wheels for each front wheel change. My theory is that it's due to the double front disk of the F800GS (and me relying on the front  more to brake) and the bigger weight of the bike cause the front to wear out more.


Rear tire:
Vs. the previous Battlewings  the Anakee seem to have one problem / they do not wear out evenly. While the BWs wore out in the middle and to the sides, the Anakees wear out mainly in the central part making the tire more and more square as they go along

Pictures of the Michelin Anakee 2 new March 2011:

Rear wheel:






Front wheel:















Pictures of the Michelin Anakee 2 worn out: October 2013:

Rear tire


Front tire


Any scares?
One big one where I actually fell off highside. turning left after accelerating out of a red light the rear end just lost it completely (approx 1 year ago) and then regained grip and threw me off the bike. To date I still have to explain why.. I looked at the ground and there didn't seem to be any oil or even wet patch (it was a dry day). But wasn't pushing the bike hard.. a regular acceleration.

Then a general issue is the rear wheel and ground paint (i.e. pedestrian crossing, the white double lines). In wet the rear tire struggles to get adherence here.

Pros:
- Longevity / value for money. Longevity not only in terms of wear out, but even after using so long on gravel and dirt roads no big knacks/holes on the tire.
- Excellent grip curving that leads to more confidence of the rider
- Stability - no wobble at high speeds 
- No fuss tire - low maintenance required

As a bonus pro - no flats (although not entirely tires fault.. but the BWs did have a flat)

Cons:
- Rear tire does not wear out uniformly - the wear out of the center makes the tire become square 
- Grip does get worse with the tire wearing out

What now?
I've been looking into what to replace the Anakee's with... coming up in the next post!


Tuesday, June 11, 2013

BMW F800GS 30M Km's maintenance

Today did the following operations to the F800GS

Oil change: Pretty straightforward, just remove the retainer screw and let the oil drip into a basin. Remove oil filter, continue to let oil drip into basin.
Replace retainer screw washer, bolt back on. Screw in new oil filter ensuring that you cover the sealing casket with some oil, as to not destroy it when tightening. Top up with oil!

Only had two issues doing this, the first that I didn't have a 24mm socket wrench to get the retainer screw out - a normal wrench doesn't enter the hole. had to go out and buy one. The second was getting the #%@&€!!! Oil filter out. I punctured a screwdriver threw it and hammered, pulled, pushed ... But the darn thing was stuck. Sprayed some WD40 on it and let it set for a while. Sort of did the trick but took some hammering to get it out - you can see this in the time lapse

Rear brake pads: Over did this one, as I think it can be done without removing the rear wheel. Basically removed rear wheel, removed locking clamp, removed locking pin. Watch out as this looks loose but you need to hammer it out, it has a sort of expander head does doesn't let it fall out. That's why in the video I'm looking at the Mac, it's the garage manual to make sure I didn't crap something up! Make sure to press the brake piston back prior to fitting the new brake pads or else the disc won't fit in the middle.



Air filter: No video of this, but really easy and fast. Open top body part (battery cover). Unscrew air intake cover, replace, screw back on

Battery: same complication as the air filter..... Just made sure to remove negative pole first and when replacing add negative pole last.

Spark plugs: this was the most complicated replacement. The manual says only to replace at 40M but decided to do a compete overhaul. This was the most complicated maintenance item as it involves removing all frontal body arts (battery cover, left panel, right panel, front beak) and the air intake structure. Leveraged replacing battery & air filter to already have them removed. The difficulty of the air intake structure a the tubes that need to be disconnected & connected without a lot of space to do so. Also need to be careful to disconnect all electrical connectors of temp sensors, accelarator sensor, etc...
After all that, before getting to the actual spark plug, the spark plug coil or connector needs to be done with a special BMW tool. Darn that's hard to pull off!!



Only thing I didn't do was check the valve clearance - didn't have the necessary tools, gaskets, etc... Think she will survive a few thousand km's more, No weird engine clanking or anything.

The Akrapovic add-on at 29000kms

Found a second hand Akrapovic at an excellent price, so why not upgrade?

Better sound (OK... not that important for everyday use, but relevant!) and better engine response!

Very easy to install, just remove two springs, the main bolt of the stock exhaust and literally slip-on the new one.


Timelapse of the mounting (20 mins approx I believe)


And the comparison of the noise. Stock, nothing (AMAZING), and Akrapovic with / without db killer:

Friday, October 29, 2010

BMW F800GS - Something to check for failure. The kickstand

Today had a strange problem with the bike.

Arriving at work,tried putting the bike on the kickstand and it just toppled over as the kickstand didn't have the "strength" to hold it.

 

The root cause was the loss of one of the two screws that hold the left foot peg and kickstand in place. No major harm done as I was able to put the bike on the center stand, and after a visit to the local dealer got an extra screw. However it raises concerns, the first being if this assembly was to fall off (it was only held in place by one very loose screw) I could have had a serious accident if this hit the rear wheel and the second that it is poor engineering to have such a "stressed" attachment, which holds he weight of the bike, held in place by two screws even without a nut! Even stranger is that I had tightened these a couple of days before!

Saturday, October 16, 2010

Adding iPhone connectivity to a motorcycle - the RAM mount

After seeing a couple of pictures of GPS mounts, satellite phones, etc.. decides to cheaply give some navigability features to my F800GS.
Instead of buying more electronic devices, decided to leverage the connectivity heavyweight iPhone. With the installation of some software, it can be a versatile GPS device - just need to install it in a visibile position on the bike and also find a way to power it during longer drives.

After looking around for a while, narrowed the search down to two contenders for the support - the touratech and the RAM. Decided for the RAM because of the price difference. As for power, found a Power socket to Car cigarette lighter adapter, into that device I can plug in a regular Cigarette lighter to USB abd power the iPhone.

The RAM mount arrived today and I've been going around on exactly how to mount it. The mounts are very modular so you can mount almost anything, anywhere. The one I purchased has one module which is the Handlebar mounting kit (a U type bolt), and another module which is the iPhone support. Everything is connect by mounting balls. Very sturdy. After experimenting a bit, I didn't like the mount on the handlebars, as it's to close to the driving position and means you have to take your eyes really off the road to look at the screen. I decided to mount it on the structure which supports the windshield & the instrumentation panel. All with the pieces supplied by RAM, no further handywork needed.

First I unscrewed the windshield and took it off
I wrapped the F800GS support structure in cloth as to protect it (it's plastic) from the tightening of the ubolt.

Added some cloth inbetween the windshield and the U-bolt as to not damage the windshield (it's pretty tight and they touch)

After some tightening and putting the windshield back on, this is the result!


I only had the iPhone camera, so as soon as there's camera around bike I'll take some pictures of everything up & running - with the iPhone and the charger.

Details:
RAM-HOL-AP6U UNPKD RAM HOLDER FOR APPLE IPHONE 3G
RAM-B-149ZU UNPKD RAM U-BOLT MNT W/2.47DIA. X 2.47X1
BMW Powerlet to USB Charger

Adding a USB port to a motorcycle as to power / recharge an iPhone

Today added a USB charging port to my BMW F800GS.

The reason is that I need some type of navigation on the motorcycle but won´t use it enough to invest in a motorcycle specific navigation device which tend to be very expensive. So I wondered if I could use tomtom or google maps on my iPhone for the task.

I encounter 3 issues to make this work:
1) How to mount on the motorcycle: see next post:
 http://charliemotorcycle.blogspot.ch/2010/10/iphone-connectivity-ram-mount.html

2) How to hear the instructions:  Got a bluetooth for the helmet. See post:
http://charliemotorcycle.blogspot.ch/2010/07/lets-start-communicating-sena-smh-10.html

3) How to power the iPhone for long trips.

After investigating for a while on USB ports, I decided on this one:
http://burnsmoto.com/usb-power-socket-weatherproof.php

 
Because:
- You just need to connect it to a 12V source
- I can adapt it to connect to the BMW´s Canbus as to turn on and off with the motorcycle. (No switch needed and no fuses needed)
- It´s weatherproof
 
As to mount you need a BMW Canbus cable. You can use part number 80 00 0 611 656.

Instructions to make it work with CAN-Bus (sorry, no pictures!):

1. On the BMW CAN-Bus connector you can cut off wire 2 - it isn´t needed
2. Soldier the black wire from the USB connector to wire 1 on the BMW CAN-Bus cable
3. Soldier the red wire from the USB connector to wire 3 on the BMW CAN-Bus cable.
4. Waterproof the connections - Heat shrink them or use PVC tape.

Instructions to mount on BMW F800GS

1. Open the top cover of the BMW F800GS (that covers the battery
2. You will see the GPS CAN-BUS connector right next to the battery in a holding clip. (it has a plastic cap)
3. connect the CAN-BUS plug with USB connector you made above.
4. Route the wires to the handlebar.
5. Mount the USB plug on the handlebar

And Done!


See this post for some images on where the GPS connector is on the BMW F800GS:

 
BMW F800GS USB port

Wednesday, November 18, 2009

BMW F800GS: Mounting touratech foglights

Today mounted Touratech foglights on the BMW F800GS. I investigated several solution, from Wunderlich to custom made LEDs I would need to adapt and decided for these due to price, being fully integrated into the design of the bike and ease of mounting.

Mounting is pretty straightforward with the instructions provided by Touratech. Just make sure you have the correct tools and isolating tape. Biggest issue is routing the cables to make sure they don't come loose, setting the fuse and attaching to the battery

Unfortunately don't have pictures of mounting the foglights, erased them by accident - but I do have pictures of them mounted

Touratech fog light switch

Touratech Fog lights


Update

Having used them for several kms.....:
#1 reason I really like these foglights:
I\m seen by cars at any time of the day. Even during broad daylight people see me coming and that equals SAFETY. If they know a motorcycle is there, less chances of hitting it...

#2 reason I really like the foglights:
Nightime use... it really lights up what is in front vs. the BMW headlight. being used to Xenon headligghts on my car which for me equals safety, the BMW only front headlight was very weak. This definitely gives it a boost.

#3 only thing I would change:Xenon / LED light. it is still noticeable that they are traditional technology and not as powerful as more modern solutions...

 

Update #2: Pictures

Touratech Fog lights

Touratech Fog lights

Friday, June 26, 2009

Purchased: BMW F 800 GS

I wanted a motorcycle to upgrade from my ´94 Honda Transalp, which is still running to date. A proof of Honda reliability at it´s best, almost 150000 kms with no major mechanical issue or overhaul - just normal maintenance. It passed by my fathers' hands for a few years, and then resisted a 18 year old ... having fun. Grew up with me & my driving. Worth every premium we paid for it being Honda.

I would have stayed within Honda if they had something to upgrade to inbetween a Transalp and a Varadero - something like the discontinued African Twin. So I went to check alternatives with the same type of reliability. The BMW 800GS caught my eye. I always liked the 1200GS for what it stood for (a bike that can go around the world with you), however saw it too big for my daily commute needs. The 800GS is a good alternative. more powerful than the Transalp, much more versatile and not as big / bulky as the 1200GS.

So... today went to pick up the new addition to the stable!  A new BMW F800 GS.

Options included were:
- Onboard computer
- Heated grips
- Hand protectors with protectors
- LED flashing turn indicators
- Center stand
- BMW Vario Topcase
- Aluminium Engine guard
- ABS
- Anti-left Alarm
BMW F800GS - 2 days old